Dark Knights Online Early Access!

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You want people to buy the game? Hmm.

yes why? im selling for cheap anyway someone already bought too sooo

I’m not gonna lie, unless you added a lot of unique features on your own, or had more unique graphics, I wouldn’t feel comfortable buying this. Even if it is just 50 cents.

Looks like you put 0 effort in… and you are charging people to play it. Much higher quality online games are out and free. Drop the fee and put more work in. Most online games are free these days . Not many are pay to play or buy to play. You don’t see any games like this which you have to buy.

Game is only on version 0.1, and we have to buy it ?
Do you by anychance work for €A ior Ubisoft too ?

If u want it to make money, maybe add some payed features like VIP.

Do you know that RPgmkaer, can sue you for using your graphics ?, and you would have to return all the money raised.
screenshot with admin menu open.

As @AngelR said, they can sue you. Fine if you want a nonprofit game but as u wanna make money you will need to avoid using free graphics. You can employ a graphic designer from $5 per tileset on fiverr. (Example Below) I might use this guy for UpVille (https://www.fiverr.com/prominent/draw-game-sprites-of-objects-items-tiles-and-more?utm_campaign=base_gig_show_share&utm_content=&utm_medium=shared&utm_source=mobile&utm_term=)

@randoyes That guy was $5 a tile, not tileset

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I’ll sum up some legalities (others can feel free to correct me where I’m mistaken).

You cannot sell what is not yours to sell and what you do not own. Free graphics are not yours to see and are not owned by you. If you use music/sounds that are not yours then you cannot sell them.

There are people who give you permission to sell their [free] resources (code, graphics, music, sounds, etc.). If you pay for a resource then you do have the right to use it how you see fit (sell it) because you own it (unless stated otherwise when you buy it).

Eg. if you buy graphics from RPGMaker’s website, there is statement saying you cannot use the graphics in anything other than RPGMaker’s engines.


If you want to make money off your game, try setting up a kickstarter or having paid features in the game (eg. VIP systems).

Kickstarter is legal because you aren’t making money from the game, you’re making money from people wanting to play the game and helping speed up development.

Paid features are allowed because you’re not selling the resources.


Hopefully this clears it up for you.

P.S. I don’t think trying to raise money before you have much (if any) content is a good idea or thing to do, but that’s an opinion which you don’t need to listen to.

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To be fair, in all honesty, you can sell a game you’ve made with Eclipse. This license that it’s released under has no real authority due to the following:

A. Touch Of Death Forums is now defunct.
B. There is no proof of ownership of Eclipse in any way shape or form - it’s been an open-closed-hodge-podge over the last 15 years that no one in their right mind would be able to track down any form of ownership to the product itself. There have been countless contributors, and if you use their source, they ‘may’ have some legal footing but not much because the engine itself has changed hands so many times.
C. This license is clearly void, the person referenced in the license (Marsh and Touch of Death Forums) does not reside in New York, but rather in Canada.
D. No lawyer worth their salt is even going to look at this as something they’d want to tackle, you’re just too small of a fish in a great big sea.

EDIT: The assets you use within the game are certainly protected under valid licenses, so ensure that any assets you include, media, sound, music, images, you have a valid commercial license or written permission from the owners.

So if you want to try and sell your game, go for it! Will it succeed? Probably not, the market is just too saturated with Free-To-Play products that you’ll really need to bring your “A Game” if you wanted to charge an upfront retail amount.

Good luck and God speed!

I was just trying to scare him into not charging for his game and making a horrible mistake of never getting any players lol. Everybody knows Consty or Shannara doesn’t give 2 fucks about MS any more lol.

Well, actually, Consty is re-making Mirage Online as a browser based game.

https://twitter.com/consty

https://play.consty.com/client.html

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